The Fxkeys.com to Ruining Your Account 1

By | September 9, 2014

Update May 2016: Fxkeys.com have re-branded themselves into LuckScout.com. Different name, same junk.

This is a great example of why having my own site to freely express views and thoughts is important to me. I was made aware of fxkeys.com, a website run by one Chris Pottorff with supposedly 23 years of trading experience. Judging by the articles’ titles and the comments left by readers it is aimed at novices. So far, so good. The problems started after I read a few of those articles and found a lot of  bad information and outright lies. I tried to point this out in a couple of comments, but guess what, they weren’t approved. You can see them waiting for moderation in the picture below:

Unapproved comments

Unapproved comments

After a little while they just disappeared. I urge any trader who tries to apply anything seen on that site to think twice. Just in one article there are several falsehoods, as evidenced not only by the fact that my comments were removed, but by common sense as well. Taking advice from someone who so blatantly lies is a sure way to ruin your account.

1. We opened a $1000 account and then started trading with it using our shared trade setups. The account turned into $100,000 in 14 months. That was a great achievement, not because of turning a $1000 into $100,000, but because of the lesson we learned.

I’m not saying this isn’t possible, given a very favorable trading environment (think the dot com bubble). It’s just extremely unlikely.

2. One of us who was used to have a million dollar trading account, withdraw the money and left only $10,000 in the account. For him, who was used to have a million dollar account and make a reasonable profit every month for several years, $10,000 meant nothing. Trading with a $10,000 account had no risk for him at all. He turns his $10,000 account into a million every 2-3 years.….. He has raised his trading capital to a million dollar few times so far. This is what many of our other team members are doing, but just with different amounts of money and account sizes. This is what I have been doing for several years too.

This is where the plot thickens and the bullshit becomes real. No one can grow an account 100x times every 2-3 years. Not even one person, let alone several as this guy is implying. Anyone with half a brain would have no difficulty in seeing through these lies.

At this point it doesn’t seem to be a fully fledged scam as there doesn’t seem to be any services for sale. But beware, with that kind of statements, my guess is that we have a scam in the making.

212 thoughts on “The Fxkeys.com to Ruining Your Account 1

  1. keen246

    Hi,
    I read the link but I don’t know how you concluded that Vahid Chaychi is actually Chris Pottorf? I’ve been reading fxkeys.com articles and have not found anything fishy. However, the articles that JLtrader mentions are very strange and indeed make you believe there is something not good when someone misleads people like that. Is he up to something? Who knows. The daily articles seems legit and mostly stress his over simplistic approach to trading, which might be valid.
    I’m not with or against fxkeys.com, I just find it confusing. Anyway, being the world of forex so full of crap, I think it’s better to keep on alert.

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  2. Gabriele

    fkxeys is one of the few sites that does not try to sell anything, the main trading strategy advertised is based on few swing position picked among long TFs and based on a strict MM strategy.

    I agree the two articles reported here are a bit… optimistic, but I have yet to see a scum attempt from Chris (whoever he is).

    maybe he’s just trying to motivate his followers in being patient and not overtrade?

    Care to weigh in with more info? Do you feel his trading system is flawed?

    btw I am just a newbie in forex and I have no connection to fxkeys, just curious

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    1. JLTrader Post author

      This pattern has been played out on forums more than once: someone makes out that he’s a successful rich trader (or part of a group), gets a steady following of mostly newbies and then stings them proper…either by selling some junk or worse by ‘managing’ their money. I don’t know their strategy and in the light of their dishonesty I’ve no desire to find out

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    2. S. J. L

      Hi, could you please share some other FX sites that are not intent to sell anything, as you mentioned?

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  3. J . C

    I agree that this idiot chris pottorf is actually vahid chaychi. He scammed lots of trusting people at Forexoma (i didn’t fall for it) and was all exposed at the Swiss Army website . His style of writing is startingly similar to what I remember from Forexoma (English is not his first language and he generally sucks at it) and I believe from reading some of these articles that some are copied and pasted from stuff he wrote a decade ago. At the beginning at Forexoma I used to read those articles with lots of expectation since, as he’s already doing here, there was a constant air of : “trading is easy”, “don’t give up or get discouraged…” “Me and my friends from our secret club started just like you and we are making millions…” This moron thinks he’s really smart.. He would fight people who asked him for proof relentessly (while insulting them for their stupidity) Don’t say that I didn’t WARN YOU. The moron behind this is vahid chaychi… Sooner or later the game will change and he’ll get your money. I’m glad I never paid him a dime… I was heartbroken and in disbelief when I learned of the news that he had conned all those trusting followers he had. If chris pottorf is a real person and a successful trader he should provide with FULL and LEGITIMATE PROOF of the CLAIMS he MAKES….Name, account records, address of operation, phone numbers where he can be reached, skype access to him personally… etc, etc, etc… otherwise he’s a CON to me and should be the same to you. Yes.. I know this is free now… I just do not believe it will stay that way for long. Thanks for reading, I hope you take this warning seriously… and good luck with your trading.

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  5. John

    I also felt there was something fishy about FXKeys though I have no knowledge of the people running it. I looked to try to see what the angle was. The only thing I found was they offer a ‘toolbar’ for download, inviting you to “Install the FxKeys toolbar on your internet browser and be among the first who receives the trading signals automatically.”

    I do not know if the site is legitimate, but I would caution that Web Browser toolbars are frequently used as a method for distributing malware.

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  6. keen246

    At this point it’s hard to say whether this guy Chris has a hidden agenda or not. Most likely he does. But it hasn’t been released. So far everything is free, daily comments that are sort of helpful and sometimes some other comments with unrealistic-overpositive to seem to have no other purpose than enticing newbies into believing that making yourself millionaire through forex is just matter of flipping your fingers (and follow his advice, of course).
    What really bugs me, it that there are a group of idiots that seem to believe that he’s some sort of god, and regard him as such. I think that’s dangerous for naive and stupid people who follow anyone without thinking just a bit. On every country we see such people following religions for no reason. Well, time will tell if our intuition is right or wrong.

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    1. Kyle006

      Well, before you start to accuse people of their good will, probably the best way is to open a demo account and trade using his strategy. If it actually works consistently over a period of time, then perhaps he really has no ill intention. Simply because there it serves him no purpose to impart an effective skill to you if he really intends to scam you, since you can already catch your own fish youself.

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  7. Chris Hodgson

    Hello everyone.

    I think no matter if a site is legit or scam, people are always going to write negotive posts about them.

    I myself am a member of FxKeys and have thus far found nothing fishy about it. Chris doesn’t ask for any money or membership fees, everything he does is free. And his analysis when read, is actually quite good, you can’t argue with the analysis when it makes sense.

    I have also written an article for FxKeys which was published recently and I did this at the request of other members, not Chris. You can have a look at it yourself and tell me if you think it’s a scam or good info from a real life trader – article is called ‘ how to trade the inside bar false break or the fakey’

    As mentioned in another comment I made, I regularly make over 20% per month or more. One trade which was on FxKeys recently (gbp/cad shooting star with confirmation and bollinger band breakout) made over a 1000% profit in a couple of weeks. At 1% risk that is a 10% return just on one trade.

    Guys that trade for banks and funds with billions etc dont trade with leverage which is why gorge soros only makes 30% a year. It’s impossibly to trade with leverage when you are taking billions in positions.

    I’m happy to chat with people about FxKeys if they want, good or bad :)

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    1. JLTrader Post author

      The fact that you claim you make 20% or more per month regularly clearly shows me that you’re either: 1. a beginner who risks too much and has had a lucky streak so far
      2. a liar
      Regarding that lame name ‘fakey’ – it’s copied from Nial Fuller…don’t even get me started on that character.

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      1. Chris Hodgson

        Hi JLTrader

        I thought you might say that, which is why I added one trade recently taken on gbp/cad 9th jan 2015 on the daily. At 1% risk (which is not much) you would be in a big profit right now, end of the day math don’t lie.

        And yes nial fuller teaches the fakey, but the article I published, which I’m guessing you haven’t read, is nothing like nial fullers stuff, it’s actually really good. But anyways, I agree that nial isn’t the best thing since sliced bread. That is why I wrote the article, to teach people how to trade inside bar false breaks properly and for free so they wouldn’t give nial $300.

        I’ve just saved new traders money they might have otherwise forked out for some course so I don’t think it’s fair to call me a newbie 😉 and give FxKeys a hard time :) but everyone can have there opinion which is great too.

        Read my article I posted on FxKeys JLTrader and tell me if this free teaching is not helpful for newbies :)

        Looking forward to your response

        Cheers

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      2. George

        Hey! Hey! Hey! Guys, calm that down, lets be professionals man. We are traders who have experienced string of losses before become successful, I have been trading for 3 years now, and I don’t pay anything for subscription but just reading FXKEYS articles. No one can say am wrong because I read or FXKEYS is wrong because I don’t know who the hail Chris is, I don’t follow him but I just LIKE to read what he writes and this is broadening my FX knowledge. I can read any article for anyone and am even reading this battle for you 2 and you are making me laugh man,. Let’s love one another and help all newbies to know that forex takes time and effort to master. God Bless both of you Guys

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    2. melusi

      based on fxkeys trading system I managed to turn a $250 account into $1645 in 12 moths. Chris is legitimate either you like it or not.

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      1. Medasculo

        Great. So why don’t you work cleaning my house for a full year and I’ll give you $2000. Better deal that staring at the charts, isn’t it?

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  8. JLTrader Post author

    So you wrote an article about a candlestick setup which is not new on the internet and you used a lame name for it that Fuller popularized. Do you want a medal now ? :) The problem is not that setup per se, which may be profitable as part of a well thought out trading plan, the problem is that you keep repeating that you have those kinds of returns that get newbies to get the totally wrong idea about trading.
    You know, you’re actually insulting me with that gbp/cad example. One trade has nothing to do with your claim of 20% or more average monthly returns. I’ll stop responding to you as it doesn’t get us anywhere.

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    1. Chris Hodgson

      Only went on about those returns because you said it was impossible and implied anyone who claims to get them is a liar etc.

      Fair enough, ciao

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    2. Qwer

      it is possible to make 20% per month or even more,stop crying bitchass nigga,if you cant make any money with forex doesnt mean others cant.there are plenty of people who trades forex for living.article on fxkeys realy help you to become profitable trader and with a little patience you can be profitable CONSISTENLY!!!!every month!! And i know that this Chris is fake man because i cant find anything about him,and,….and fxkeys have something to do with Vahid,BUT I DONT GIVA A FUCK!!!For now is everything free and article helping me to becoming profitable trader every month, if something change and i there we must pay on fxkeeys i will just leave the site,but the knowledge what i learn you cant take me.

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  9. Alp

    Hi,
    When I saw debate about fxkeys here and interested that topic. Actually I usually visit that website and find good . But it’s very interesting someone said that there is no someone chris pottorrf . That is no real one . After that I really wonder about that and searc in the net nearly 3 hours and my conclusion is yes it’s possible that there is no real person chris pottorrf . Site owner seems like vahid chyachie , I have reach enough clue for that …. But still site doesn’t seem dangerous revese seeming useful yet …. But if site owner is vahid why he needs to keeps secret his identify !? Strange situations …..

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  10. Linz

    There is a real contradiction here. Chris certainly puts up a lot of info for free and doesn’t respond to insulting or derisory language and fair enough. I don’t know what his angle is or maybe he is just likes being a mentor for the common good who knows? Certainly makes him unique. The only thing I questioned was all his u-tube videos use a robot like voice over rather than a real person and I wondered why. However his English may not be so good. It seems to be true that his identity seems to be obscure. I’d say just prove him or not. If his analysis and signals bear fruit then that’s the only test you need.

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  11. MK

    I also suspected Chris is somehow connected to the Forexoma group by way of his $1000 forex plan.
    He offers it also on FXkeys. I was aware of this spreadsheet from Forexoma and recognized it immediately.

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  12. Andrew

    Hi everyone I must admit I have been reading the daily articles posted on fxkeys.com after all its free and I thouht tere is no risk to me as I will not pay for anything but in a recent article titled “dealing with disapointment in forex tradinge” the following got my attention and I wonder how we could warn these people they may be at risk soon please read the article and give us your thoughts this is the part that got my attention.

    “We are working to create some exceptional tools on FxKeys that can help you to become a consistently profitable trader, risk free. I have talked about this in some of my comments and have invited you to guess what those tools are, but none of you have been able to do that so far, and I am sure you will never be able to do it (although I want you to keep on doing it because it has so much fun :) ), because it has never been done by any other website before. There are so many Forex trading sites over the Internet with services like forums, calender, market analysis, free or paid trading courses, and… These are really good, but most Forex traders need something more than this to leave their fear and greed behind, and reach their destination which is becoming a “consistently profitable” trader as soon as possible. More than 95% of Forex trader lose. We cannot and are not going to change this equation, because not everybody will follow us. But, we can make it much much easier for those who follow us and are serious to become successful.

    The good news is these tools will be offered for free and we are not going to make a single cent from them. Hope we can launch them as soon as possible. Please stay tuned and follow us on FxKeys closely, because you have to be present when the tools are ready to be offered. They cannot be offered to unlimited number of users because there is a limited capacity. So, please be around and ready to take action when it is the time to. Soon we will invite you to sign up for an account on FxKeys. Also FxKeys forums will be launched too. You will need to login to your account whenever you want to leave a comment or post on the forums.

    Once again, the tools I talked about are all free and we are not going to charge anything. I have to emphasize on this for some important reasons.”

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  13. MV

    I think if you don’t trust it don’t use it, once you’ve made that decision there’s no need to talk about it further. I have used a lot of the information on FxKeys and its has made me more profitable and a better trader, so I suppose its down to the individual. If you think there is a scam involved, don’t pay for it or sign up to it. Just use the information and to say you can’t grow your account is ridiculous. A trader I work with turned a £1000 to £33,000 in a month to prove it can be done, although he did work for JPMorgan for 20 years. Everyone will say it can’t be done until somebody does it.

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    1. Medasculo

      It’s absolutely amazing how naive people can be. Maybe the hope of becoming millionaires as their self-proclaimed guru of choice just let them see what they want to see. I guess people have to endure and experience by themselves what is the reality of trading and why Forex is so full of crap. Sorry for their valuable time.

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      1. MV

        Interesting response, not sure i’m naive. I have studied Forex for a couple of years now and am in profit and am consistant so to say Forex is full of crap is naive. Out of interest have you made money from Forex or had success? Also FxKeys is great for the content and learning about consistancy but I would never sign up to something I thought was a scam. I know you can make millions from it but I would never get my information from some one that claims it can be done in a month.

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  14. Jan Schick

    Hi,
    looks like it’s coming soon….:-))

    http://www.fxkeys.com/fxkeys-risk-free-trading-program/

    “This program will not only be offered 100% free, but also it will enable you to trade Forex and make real money without risking any money. It is amazing, and is what no other site/company has done for Forex traders so far. Just imagine how many will rush to join this program.

    There is a limited capacity for this program and we are getting closer to this limit. So you have to do your best not to miss the train, and get in before we close the doors”

    This guy is insane..

    Jan Schick
    Prague

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  15. Mark

    “Making a 20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5% monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30% profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.)”.

    It is not difficult to prove that his setups has never made 20% a month. There have been several months when he didn’t has even one setup. For Chris Pottorff (Vahid Chaychi) 2%+2% is 22%. Be careful so that his new “free”program was not the most expensive program in your life. Don’t think he writes every day for free. He wants to have thousands of traders to “earn” millions of dollars.
    Ask “Chris” why hi didn’t use his own voice in his webinars. Ask him about Vahid Chaychi, he should know him because articles that are published on FxKeys are witten by Vahid.

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    1. Linz

      I’m a follower of FXKeys and so far so good, I am learning stuff. I guess we will have to see whether all the accusations on this website are valid or not. Actually someone did directly ask him on the site if he was in any way related to Vahid Chaychi and he would get his answer if he posted the question or not. Since I read it he did post it. He did not confirm or deny the question but dismissed it as a distraction not relevant to the tenor of the site. If he had said “yes I am he” JD would have accused him of scamming and if he denied it JD would have accused him of lying, would you not? So he deflected it quite neatly I thought and still allowed the post. Sure he does not seem to have an open identity like JD I presume, or Jarratt Davis who gives open faced videos and addresses etc, but for me the jury is still out. Interestingly I did ask him an unrelated question about a technicality and quoted another website and he apologized in not allowing it but said it was OK to leave a link to the quote which he did. I note on here JD you directly allow quotes of material from his website. Do you think you may be in breach of copyright? He was wary of it, maybe you should be too? Just a thought, I have nothing against your site , in fact I think the debates are a good thing. Cheers, Linz

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  16. Olli K

    Hi everyone

    A serious warning about this Chris Pottorff, he is not a real person. Behind the screen is Vahid Chaychi !
    This guy runned a Forexoma brokerage service and scammed a thousands of traders money.
    Before Forexcoma gone under I copied the whole webpage of Forexcoma. The layout of the FXkeys site is exactly
    the same. This free program he offers is first hook before he requires a payments or offer a brokerage service.
    Stay alerted!

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  17. Linz

    I guess we will see what happens then. So far he has said everything is free and also stated he has no plans opening a brokerage.

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  18. John

    I think JL Trader is right. FXKeys is belong to Vahid Chaychi disguising under name Chris Pottorff.
    Below link is the image that I managed to capture from the website.
    Apparently there is some issue on his FXKeys website today and everyone member account is showing as Chris Pottorff and surprisingly name of Vahid Chaychi appears as well.

    http://tinypic.com/?t=postupload

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  19. John

    I think JL Trader is right. FXKeys is belong to Vahid Chaychi disguising under name Chris Pottorff.
    Below link is the image that I managed to capture from the website.
    Apparently there is some issue on his FXKeys website today and everyone member account is showing as Chris Pottorff and surprisingly name of Vahid Chaychi appears as well.

    http://i57.tinypic.com/14vqtyc.jpg

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  20. Linz

    Never noticed my account or anyone else’s account with FXKeys bearing Chris Portorff’s name. But there was last week someone posting as Portorff Chris who was pretty quickly challenged and his posts were taken down with advanced warning to him and to all that this was going to happen which I thought was transparent. I think the contributor may have been up to some mischief since the general discussion was about brokers and that is a sensitive area. I could not find your screen capture of Vahid Chaychi on the FXKeys site either John. For all concerned I am skeptical of the motives of anyone on any site because Forex is a shark pool. However until someone comes up with better evidence than has been posted here so far for me the jury is still out and I am learning a lot about Forex on FXKeys site which I have not found elsewhere. I am not looking for a guru but at the same time I know it is difficult to learn forex on your own, so I take it as it is freely given. So be it and time will tell but I thank you for your warnings and everyone else’s to be alert which is most valid in the world of Forex.

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  21. John

    Linz,

    You go FXKeys Forum and look at topic: “Security Issue! I am getting strange access to my profile”
    One of the member there post 3 pictures. Open all of the picture and you see what I mean (especially pic 2.png).
    Hopefully Vahid hasn’t removed the pictures yet by the time you go there and check.

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  22. Linz

    Thanks John I did see that just now, the screenshots are still there. The mystery deepens but it still doesn’t prove too much since someone could be making trouble, who knows? But again we all have to be careful in this intriguing and dangerous world of Forex and not to be too stupid. Meanwhile I’m trying to keep an open mind. Cheers for your alert.

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  23. Linz

    Yes I saw that. You’re right John, if Chris Pottorff really is Vahid Chaychi then there are serious questions to be asked so I take note of the posts here, and it is strange that name should spring up on his site and get past scrutiny. However it may be malicious sabotage since market maker brokers don’t like his warnings about them. So meanwhile I withhold judgement for now. Cheers

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  24. John

    I don’t think it is a sabotage at all. To be able to sabotage a website you need a hacker to do that and why would a jealous market makers want to hire a hacker to do that? Doesn’t make any sense, does it?
    The way I see it is that website is belong to Vahid which disguise under the name of Chris Pottorff and because that website is still under major development to support it’s new program, error in coding can happened and it shows up Vahid name unintentionally. As you can see the problem of the website showing Chris Pottorff name is not reported by 1 person only but few of them. Those who reported their name displaying Chris Pottorff instead of themselves are those who register using their email and password only, while those who register using their social media account like facebook will shows Vahid’s name instead (like the guy who posted the problem). Which mean Vahid and Chris are the same person. This is not the first time issue happened with the website, before there is also some problems with the point systems doesn’t show correctly.
    The problem is that most of the people there are newbies in forex and they don’t know about Vahid. You could see on all the comments there asking who is Vahid. Some of them did google but still believe like you that someone is trying to hijack the website.

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  25. Linz

    Thanks for your detailed analysis John and you may well be right, but I never actually said what I believe except that one is innocent until proven guilty. So I simply posted questions and maybes, not beliefs, which is what I should do when I don’t know the whole story and people have to make up their own minds. I am aware that people often naively follow gurus and I can understand that because he seems to possess a considerable depth of understanding and experience in Forex and continually supplied with no fee with answers for everyone. For that reason I am keeping an open mind because the analysis is useful and so far his character is yet to morph into the scoundrel you believe him to be, but I am happy to listen to you and others and exchange comments on this site as well which is what Forex needs in order to stay healthy. If you really feel so strongly then why don’t you join the site and make your own forum posts and see how you get on because this whole topic is pretty serious stuff!

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  26. John

    You know how the site work, don’t you?
    It’s just like a censorship in China where the government take a full control of what internet content should be displayed to their citizen.
    Every comments you post on his daily article will get censored first (by awaiting moderator approval), comments that will somehow against his teaching or cause a confusion among the members will get censored (ex: the guy with the name Portoff Chris that made a trouble in the forum. That guy made a trouble because he was upset that his comment on Chris article get censored).
    If I’m trying to post on the forum regarding this issue, you could imagine what would happened. I probably would get banned, especially 99.9% of the members naively adore him like Forex God/Guru that is never wrong.
    Like you, I do find some of his teaching and techniques are useful and I don’t want to get kicked out because of becoming a whistle blower.

    I think I would stop commenting from this point onward. Thanks for listening and I do appreciate your position.
    Hopefully in the future if something bad is really happening you could stand and protect those members from being ripped off.

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  27. Linz

    OK John thank you. I think you might find the forums are not moderated. You can post immediately. I was the first to challenge Pottorff Chris not because of his content but because of the use of the name which seemed pretty strange to me, although on the emails he complained of censorship but came on to the forum to ask why Chris Pottorff was a “bad man”. I’m sure if I called myself traderlj and asked why jltrader was a bad man, I probably would get short shrift too. It was only much later that Chris P entered the forum discussion and then recommended that we alert the team of untoward postings so from that I presumed forums were not moderated.

    Yes you would get banned eventually but you may have saved a lot of naive newbies. Please don’t get me wrong I really appreciate your comments but there is a contradiction between your opinion and not wanting to be a whistle-blower I feel. No need to answer but thank you for listening to me also.

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  28. John

    As what I have expected, the topic : “Security Issue! I am getting strange access to my profile” has been removed from FXKeys website.

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    1. Rami

      John and Linz, I am also a member og fxkeys.
      Indeed there is no Chris that guy is Vahid.
      We need to warn these people but I suggest we discuss in private as Vahid my be seeing this. We have to find a way to communicate with these people.

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      1. Maza

        I am a member on fxkeys too and I have also been following this blog although there has still not been anything offered for a fee on fxkeys as yet I am unsure of the motive of this site I will admit I have learnt alot from the web site It is hard to confirm if it os usefull or not. we will see

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      2. John

        Rami,

        There is no way you could communicate with other members as Vahid has disabled private message/email on his forum. The only way you could communicate is through posting in the forum and wait for other team member to reply. But as I said, he will quickly censored the topic and get rid of it just like before.

        Today Vahid is making a post on the forum with title: “Bugs, Errors and Problems”, go and see for yourself. In his post he mentioned that his website is under hacker attack by some Forex scam who wants to steal his traffic (do you believe that?) and set some rules. By reading his rules, I could basically take assumption that he doesn’t want us to talk about anything against him/relate him to Vahid in the forum. Like the topic few days ago that was pulled out, I don’t see any security related issue being discussed in the forum. People only reporting that they are getting different profile other than themselves. It’s just because someone capture image with Vahid name in it.

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  29. Linz

    Hi John,

    John removal of the post is vindication for you so point taken.
    So far Chris (or Vahid) has answered all my technical questions politely and he is very informed so I have been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. However I am not the one to believe just because I want my belief to be true. When people trust it is easy to let your guard down when given hope and the desire to belong to a caring family which is human nature. When it comes to money, that is where corruption can easily take place. So far no money is involved on this site, so no harm done. On that basis nobody can make any demands or say anything about his freedom to make any rules he likes on his own site.

    Having said that we can say what we like outside of the site. If you John and others are correct then I probably already have a red flag against my name because I have nothing to hide I always use the same name on every site and do not wish to change that.

    I notice Vahid Chaychi runs other websites. One is called Healthoma which may be a tenuous link but similar in name to Forexoma. If he’s one and the same then he’s a busy man.

    Regards,
    Linz

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  30. Mark

    Several years ago Vahid Chaychi run a free website (weboma.com). He taught forex trading and published free forex signals. Few ears later he started his Forexoma Live Market Analysis and began sending buy sell signals through a new website (forexoma.com). Believe me or not but 20% a month was a piece of cake for him. If one had followed his signals he could have earned from 15% to 40% every single month (2% risk). A few years later Vahid with his friends (a group of traders) set up Forexoma brokerage (STP broker). The headquarters of Forexoma was in Toronto – Vahid lived in Canada. The brokerage was not registered. I remember when a trader who was conscious of risk asked Vahid why his brokerage was not registered. Vahid accused him about spite. Then the headquarters was moved to Hong Kong (if I remember) and Forexoma brokerage began offering money management program (Vahid had dreamed about money management). They offered a few money management programs. They warranted rate of return! Few months later the website of Forexoma brokerage disappeared from the Internet.
    Believe me or not but Vahid Chaychi has been the best forex trader I have ever met. His knowledge, discipline… and setups were eminent. He taught and practised not the same system he teaches and practises on FxKeys.

    I don’t know if Vahid Chaychi was responsible for stealing money from traders but when Forexoma disappeared from the Internet Vahid dissapeared too.

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  31. John

    Hi Mark,

    You seem to know a lot about him. Were you also one of his followers when he just started Forexoma?

    Of course it’s not sure if he was responsible for stealing money from traders or not, but by hiding his true identity, not using his own voice during webinar, censor anything that mention Vahid’s name, you could have your own judgement.

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    1. Mark

      Hi John,
      My first post here: “Chris Pottorf doesn’t exist. Chris Pottorf is a nickname of Vahid Chaychi the founder of Forexoma Brokerage then forex scam. Fxkeys belongs to V.Chaychi”.

      Yes, I was one of his followers when he started Forexoma.

      Before Forexoma disappeared Vahid had written a message that he had sold his shares in Forexoma brokerage and worked for Forexoma as a consultant only (I didn’t see the message). He hid his identity because he had stolen money or because he had been identified with Forexoma and traders accused him of stealing money. So, writing as Vahid Chaychi would not be wise for him. Only Vahid and his “group of traders” know if he is a criminal and should be imprisoned or if he is a honest man.

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      1. Linz

        Presuming he is one and the same man, then it’s an error to hide his identity if he is innocent or only guilty by association. If later writing under a pseudonym, and an expose’ happens then it’s a much more difficult road back to establish innocence. For that reason alone if this guy truly is undercover then innocence is much more unlikely.

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  32. Olli K

    Mark is straight right about Vahids trading skills and the system he used on Forexoma. System based on charts patterns breakouts with MACD and RSI indicating / confirming proper signals to enter. Vahid had also prog- rammed a very accurate EA called FCAR (Forex Charts Analyzer Robot) which plotted the patterns automaticly.
    Why an earth a such skilled Forex trader made so much efforts only to steal peoples money. If the scam is obvious it is not a scam at all. Everyone has seen those stupid “givemeabreak” Forex marketing videos where a poor skilled actor telling how you can be a millionaire by no time. Scamming is art and Vahid is a master of it. Yes I was scammed by Vahid Chaychi. Stay alerted!

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  33. John

    Wow someone bravely posted and warned others that Chris is Vahid on his forum. And as predicted, no one believe of what he wrote and accused him of trying to attack Chris with his comment. Someone even linked this website on the post as well. Interesting to see how Chris/Vahid is going to respond on that. That person would probably get banned and the topic get removed like before

    http://www.fxkeys.com/forums/topic/all-fx-members-please-read-this-important/

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  34. Linz

    He has replied and his answers are good enough for me. To my knowledge some red faces but no one has been banned because it needed to be cleared not punished. No need to say anything more except this has been a huge distraction from trading. An end to this drama now I say.

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  35. John

    Linz,

    Good that you have made a decision on where to stand. I would still stand at the edge of the coin.
    All of his answers always indicating that others (including JLTrader) are jealous of him and try to ruin FXKeys success by either saying his forex strategy is not good or either accusing him as Vahid Chaychi. I don’t buy that answer. If FXKeys is already that big and success, he won’t bother to ask all of his members to try to promote his site through social media. Go to Forex Factory and search a user name FXKeys, you could see how he post his daily articles on that forum and most of the people there don’t even care. If FXKeys is that famous and success, his post will be flooded with many comments and praises.

    One side of coin
    – Chris Porttoff does exists
    – He is a very nice, understanding, forex guru with dedicated team that is trying to help others to become successful forex trader or even millionaire. Almost perfect like God.
    – Believe people doesn’t like his success by attacking his article, hacking his website and accusing him as Vahid Chaychi.
    – In the process of developing forex program that will make its members consistently profitable and risk free

    Other side of coin
    – Chris Porttoff is Vahid Chaychi
    – Used to be forex guru but now run into hiding because of possibility stealing his members money through Forexoma brokerage
    – In the process of trying to con his members again through different program scheme under FXKeys website

    Edge of the coin
    – Don’t care whether Chris or Vahid are same person or even exists
    – Only want to learn his skills to improve trading success
    – Keen to see the program offered but with more caution (if money involved, backed out)

    Surprisingly 90% of his members do believe that Chris exists even though proofs show otherwise.

    1. He removed the pictures proof and post on his website that shows Vahid Chaychi is logging in to FXKeys website. Accusing that his website is under hacker attack by Market Marker that doesn’t like his success. Why would a Market Maker hire a hacker and at the same time use a name Vahid Chaychi. Isn’t it too coincidence?
    2. He is removed all Vahid Chaychi name on his forum, all the links showing the proof that Chris Porttoff articles are written in similar fashion to Vahid Chaychi as well a link to this JLtrader website. A proof that he doesn’t want people to know. I always believe if I’m not wrong then I would stand to it and not eliminating evidence. Removing evidences are showing that you are scared to be find out.
    3. The layout of FXKeys website is exactly the same as Forexoma website before and he always arguing that people can copy others.
    4. Never use real voices, but only robot, scared if people find out Chris and Vahid voices are the same.
    5. List can go on if I want to dig it more.

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  36. tokra

    It’s nice to see so many opinions here. I was the one who dared to post this website in the FxKeys forum. It was removed quickly and he found an answer to everything. You were right – he is a master of blinding people, 90% of the people believe him. I’m saying 90% because it has gotten much quieter in the forum since that happened. Some members haven’t posted anything new, including me, because I felt uncomfortable. First I did regret posting this website in the forum, because I lost my “reputation” and people there will not take me seriously anymore if I continue posting with that nickname. But on the other hand, it is a very valuable lesson about psychology for me. It shows me again, that the crowd can be completely blinded if the put enough effort into it and everybody who stands up will be fought.

    I’m still on the edge of the coin – I hope you like the example from Kiyosaki :) That means I don’t know what is true and who this guy really is. It seems more probable to me that Vahid and Chris are the same guy. The main reason for that is his writing style. He claims this site was bought – so by that he tried to explain another experienced trader wrote the old articles, whereas he writes the new ones. But I don’t think that’s true, because the writing style, his vocabulary, his English, which is not native, it’s all very very similar. Too much of a coincidence.

    So I’ll stay a member of Fxkeys, I’ll try to learn as much as possible about trading, because he is obviously a very good trader and the trading system he teaches really works. I’m thankful for that. On the other hand I’ll stay alert, esp. when it comes to his risk free trading program which he will launch soon. The fact that Vahid is obviously a programmer and knows a lot about search engine optimizing, writing blogs etc. shows me again, it’s the same person. I’ve read the comments you linked as well (John Chow) – similar writing style, though it could be a coincidence, there is not so much to compare.

    Like I said, at the moment I don’t care, because I learn a lot from him. But I’m also shocked and I’m trying to understand him. This guy is obviously very good at trading, so it can’t be about money, why he is doing this blog / website. Maybe it’s just his life and he has other goals now, like promoting a website. We don’t know…

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  37. John

    Hi Tokra, I think I know who you are in FXKeys :)

    I feel sorry for the guy who initially created the topic in the forum. I believe his intention is purely only want to let all other members know who Chris Porttoff is and he has no other agenda, but like you said 90% blinded members accusing him for trying to attack Chris and bring down FXKeys. Even yourself who tried to give explanation by looking at different side of coins get abused by them.

    These are two different things that they (including Chris) blended together, ie Chris (FXKeys) forex strategies and Chris is Vahid. Nothing is wrong with Chris (FXKeys) forex strategies and his website and like you, I appreciate all his time doing this to teach and help others to be successful in forex trading. The thing that is wrong in my opinion is Chris is a fake name used by a guy previously known to have con others. I can’t stand seeing people adoring him like a guy who hardly have any mistakes in both personality, teaching, mentoring, etc in the forum but in fact he could be a possible con man. If you still have hearts and feeling for others, how could you actually accept that?

    Most people who joined FXKeys are those who are beginners or fail many times in Forex and have lost hoped. They have high faith by joining the website and learning from Chris/Vahid so that they could reverse the situation and maybe one day become millionaire. Even Chris/Vahid is denying that he is a millionaire in the forum when someone brought that thing up, so that’s contradict to what Chris/Vahid always emphasised. Imagine if at the end it doesn’t turn out as per what they expected, they could become worse than now.

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  38. tokra

    Let’s see – time will show us. I feel sorry for the guy who started the topic as well, because he is in the same situation like me – we cannot continue posting there – everybody has hard feelings and thinks we don’t like Chris.
    But it doesn’t really matter – the only reason people comment on every topic there is because they have high hopes in terms of the risk-free trading program and they need points for that – it seems to work like some kind of torrent network later. I personally think we have to apply the principles of our trading psychology, risk management and perhaps most importantly our psychology which will lead us to success. So what I’m saying is we are responsible and people have done it before – some people seem to think the risk-free trading program will do the work for them.
    So as you said, so far there is nothing wrong with Fxkeys, it’s one of the best educational sites in terms of forex in my opinion. I’m thankful for that and I hope some time in the future we will find out what all that is really about. People have always different goals in life – maybe now his goal is to be successful in promoting a website, we don’t know that. Happy trading :)

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  39. Mark

    Hi John you are wrong: “(…)Even Chris/Vahid is denying that he is a millionaire in the forum when someone brought that thing up,(..)

    “Chris Pottorff:
    September 7, 2014 at 9:37 am
    You are a millionaire when you have a million dollars at least. So yes, we are millionaires.”

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  40. John

    Yes he is saying sentences that on his reply to this topic http://www.fxkeys.com/why-do-i-love-the-daily-chart/
    But see his answer below when replying to Roaelctriuos question (the very bottom).
    He is denying that he is a millionaire. That’s why I said it is a contradiction.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________________
    roaelctriuos $ wrote:

    … you didn’t give us one good reason why you doing all this…

    We want to create a community of millionaires. We want to make this site, and the incoming sites, as the biggest reference of business, investment and wealth. We want to…

    Do these suffice as the reasons you want to know, or still want more reasons? Are these reasons enough for you to trust us, or you can still think that we are scam?

    Let’s say you are right and I haven’t give you any reasons so far. You can keep on using the site as long as you think it is still useful for you. Once you see that you don’t like it anymore, you can leave and never come back. It is free, both to visit and to leave the site, isn’t it?
    Is giving no reasons for having this site, a good reason to sabotage it, which is what Singh has been trying to do?
    Please think before you talk.

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    roaelctriuos $ wrote:

    you are keep telling us that you are a Millionaire…

    Where did I say that??? Can you show me that page, article, or…???
    It seems you are also interested in creating rumors against the others. Am I right?

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  41. Kamikaze

    I’ve been following this Chris entity ever since the site was launched some years ago.It had a large break with no posts and then bam! a new post each day.
    First of all, I learned a lot from the site for free although the information can be found for free elsewhere.
    Second, the misinformation is really dangerous. He stresses about “money management” and “100/100 setups”(how does he score them is a mystery) and how one could add 20% to his equity monthly following this strategy. Which is a complete bs. While I have myself added up to 30% SOME months, I also have months where I don’t trade at all because I see no good signals at all. His setups are not good for MY strategy. He analyses a lot of exotic pairs, suggests often going against the dominant trend just because there is some of his “dark cloud” crap after yet another high and the double bolinger band strategy seems valid but no way one could constantly make 3:1 Reward/Risk with these ones. Tbh the way he presents the forex market reality is as if it is a computer game where the gamer/trader gets points and percentages from so called token setups.
    Third – his agenda is about to be revealed soon with this “risk free” juju he is about to launch. Since I am registered,I hope to be able to see what the fuss was all about, but I am almost certain it will do more harm than good. HOPE the many users on the forum and site don’t get hurt too much for believing.

    P.S. I’m certain Vahid is behind the site.He also fabricated another contributor Kamel who claims to have turned a small account in some thousands of cash in 6 weeks iirc.major lolzers.

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    1. Medasculo

      Exactly! I totally agree with your comments and is what one sensible and smart person would think. However, it seems like the world is still full of naive people. If you read the comments on Fxkeys, most come from very naive newbies that are still not aware of the dirty jungle Forex actually is.
      I think Vashid is reading every single one of the comment made here, and he’s now thinking of delaying/changing his strategy to deceive people and get their money.
      Well, I hope people open their eyes before it’s too late.

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  42. Mark

    FxKeys May performance: -4%, no 100% setups
    EUR/AUD short (stop loss triggered) -2% 95% setup
    CAD/CHF long (stop loss triggered) -2%

    “Making a 20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5% monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30% profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.)”.

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    1. John

      Yes Mark. I agree with you.
      I followed his analysis and do it “monkey see, monkey do” way on Demo account.
      The result of following 95-100% setup is not that good.

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  43. Mike a

    Vahid = Chris. I have absolutely no doubt!! Why? Here is why:

    I had subscribed to Forexoma and had created a email specifically for that. I didn’t open live account because they never really answered regulation/tax questions clearly. I lost interest and stopped paying attention.

    I recently checked that email box and lo and behold – i see Fxkey emails. I never ever subscribed to it. I looked at some articles and they looked similar to forexoma. I searched for Forexoma and they are gone! Then i started feeling fishy and searched for Fxkey and vahid and here i am. Stay away unless you want to be a sucker. You have been warned !!

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  44. Humoom

    Hi, I totally agree that this Chris might be Vahid.. I remember back in days when Forexoma started, it was being operated the same way this FxKeys is being operated. At first for a long time(until he gets a strong fan base to rob them) Vahid also offered advise and help for free and then He started his own broker company Forexoma. I have his Forexoma.com completely download in zip format back in July, 2011. JLTrader, John and others if you want I can provide you with the file to compare his Forexoma site with this FxKeys to see if he is really Vahid and is copying from his old Forexoma site. Cheers!

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  45. tokra

    Humoom,
    please share the zip file so everybody can have a look and compared the websites.

    The risk free trading software is being released soon. I’ll test it, but I’ll install it on a separate computer which has no personal data, so whatever the software could be doing / sending elsewhere, I’ll not be affected.

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  46. tokra

    Thank you.
    I looked at the website. The articles look similar, the style of the comments is similar and the psychological principal of the website looks the same like FxKeys.
    Since I don’t know what is true and who is behind FxKeys, so I try to stay objective as much as I can.
    So on the one hand it is possible, that Vahid created a new website, put a lot of effort into changing articles and is about to do something strange again. On the other hand, Chris claims that he bought the website.
    I like to think in probabilities. Let’s assume Chris was right and he bought the website. I think it’s unlikely that a person like Vahid who does not care about money sells his website and articles. People usually have a face, Chris doesn’t, so it’s unlikely that he is a real person. So again, I don’t know it, I don’t judge anything, but I think it’s more likely that it is the same person.

    I’ll be careful, so thank you guys. But I think nobody should try to warn the FxKeys members again, those who did just got smashed and Chris go even stronger after that – his fanbase grew stronger etc. So there is nothing you can do, if you fight against it, it’ll only make the community stronger, because all members have deep beliefs and trust him. So I won’t do anything, but continue to learn from him, because he is a good trader and so far has offered everything for free.

    His risk free trading program, let’s see what it is, it won’t be a broker again, because he declined it in the last article. Because he wants people to trust him and he wants to be in integrity for now, I don’t think he’ll offer a brokerage service for now, but he might do it later on.

    This is obviously not about money. It might be an experiment (psychological) for him about influencing people, something like that.

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  47. J . C

    I posted here before (December 22, 2014) in regards to Fxkeys. There’s no doubt in my mind that the unverifiable name and identity of this so called “Chris Portoff” is indeed Vahid Chaychi. If they are not the same person doing the writing/blogging, etc, a partnership and/or association has been created in the form of FxKeys. More appropriately I would call it: A front.

    This front (FxKeys) will operate as a FREE (not for long), educational, very open and accessible and harmless website dedicated to Forex trading. But they have already started to hint about “programs” to be unveiled in the near future.

    Whoever “Chris Portoff” is has exactly the same style and writing personality Vahid Chaychi had… very accessible, friendly, charming, yet never unprofessional. The style of writing and what the lessons are about and how it is expressed is 100% Forexoma (Chaychi’s previous Forex Trading website that ended up exposed as a scam here :

    http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/public/review/www.forexoma.com?page=2

    There are about a 20 plus red flags I’ve detected that lead me to believe I’m right… and I’ll repeat: FxKeys is fronted by an unverifiable person/identity by the name of Chris Portoff who I believe is actually Vahid Chaychi himself. Is either that or the website itself has been fully developed and managed under the supervision, design, philosophy of Vahid Chaychi.

    This is my second post in this regard. Although luckily, I was not affected but Chaychi’s previous scam, I was floored literally when I found out about it. I was very familiar with Forexoma since I hate to admit, someof the materials were very helpful and eye opening. However, that’s exactly the catch and how the scam was designed to work. They will encourage you to no end with promises of possibilities and the way to riches only matching a romance novel. I’m warning you, the moment the programs and the asking for money begins…. you are on your own. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

    Let me put it this very simple way. As long as any of these self-proclaimed gurus don’t show you their trading results (Forex Factory would be a great place to do so) you are very likely a candidate to be scammed. If you are great at what you do, why can’t you publish it? What better way to create a verifiable, trustworthy business and following? You could make billions indeed if you could make money for everybody on the planet. Show your existing and official record !

    And btw… I know of people who are succeeding in Forex, it’s not impossible. You can learn it all by yourself with dedication and great deal of perseverance. You don’t need to pay anybody.

    Best of Luck to You and hope your trading takes of to infinity.

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  48. Rajj

    Very interesting to read all the pro and con comments here and thank you for those who have put an effort to warn us regarding Chris (aka Vahid) with his FXKeys website.

    I am a member too and to be honest, I personally also still puzzle with his current intention as it contradicted with his past action (if Chris is indeed Vahid)

    If you read about FXKeys goal (http://www.fxkeys.com/what-is-our-goal/), it is clearly mentioned that their intention is not about making money but for creating a community of traders, investors, entrepreneurs, millionaires and wealthy people. A community of those who already are, and also those who want to become financially free (I quote that from one paragraph in the link above).

    So if money is out from equation, I am assuming by creating this kind of community the creator will get a satisfaction or a pride of doing so (able to help other people) and this is where it becomes confusing to me.
    If something from small becoming big and popular, people will want to know who started/created it, they want to adore the creator for all the good things done, they want to meet him in person and if the creator is indeed Vahid using a fake name Chris how will he face those people and how will he get satisfaction of doing so by living in a lie. How can you have intention to help so many people after you have scam so many as well previously? Hope you see the logic and my point here. Therefore I believe most people who have written here are sceptical and lean towards the negative side for Chris (aka Vahid) running FXKeys which is to scam another people in another way.

    Is it possible that Vahid is trying to atone all of his sins for taking millions from his Forexoma followers before and doing good deeds by living as Chris Porttoff now? If you make a crime in the past (murder, rape, scam, etc) that make other people in disadvantage and able to avoid justice, will you be able to live peacefully by doing good deeds now?

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  49. JLTrader Post author

    Ladies and gentlemen, I’m amazed this post has gathered so many comments. Makes me think of starting a forum on my site, absent of the negative aspects the existing trading forums have. I’ll think this idea over during the weekend.

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    1. John

      Hey JLTrader, people will start accusing you stealing the traffic from FXKeys then if you starting your own forum. LOL

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  50. Mark

    Hi Rajj
    “If something from small becoming big and popular, people will want to know who started/created it, they want to adore the creator for all the good things done, they want to meet him in person and if the creator is indeed Vahid using a fake name Chris how will he face those people and how will he get satisfaction of doing so by living in a lie. How can you have intention to help so many people after you have scam so many as well previously? Hope you see the logic and my point here”.

    Do you remember The Stig (Top Gear)?

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    1. Rajj

      Mark,

      Are you comparing The Stig to Chris Porttoff and Jeremy Clarkson to Vahid Chaychi? :)

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    1. Rajj

      OK. I got what you mean. I was assuming differently before.

      Jeremy Clarkson is the brain/idea of the character = Vahid Chaychi
      The Stig is the character that become famous = Chris Porttoff

      Using your assumption, people will go back to my initial confusion.

      Stig = Ben Collins intention is to make money through the show. He probably doesn’t like being the Stig but just for the sake of getting paid as a job, but how about Chris Pottorff = Vahid Chaychi since money is not his intention?

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  51. tokra

    Well, everything is possible. Time will show :)
    On the one hand Chris has gotten more and more fans. You can see it in the General section of his forum – I don’t even bother to read that shit anymore when I see a topic called “thank you” or “we miss you”.
    What I want to say is, although he has gotten more fans, the number of quality topics decreases. One month ago there were a lot of useful topics, now it seems members get less active and new people adore him.
    It’s of course possible that he tries to make up for his actions in the past and just wants to help. We will see it soon.

    After all his broker articles and ECN broker articles last month, I was almost certain, he would present “the solution” with his own brokerage service, “the solution” because all brokers are so “evil”. But he has clearly stated now, it is not about that, so let’s see what happens.

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  52. Mark

    I agree with you tokra. I see that FxKeys’ members are getting frustrated because they want to make money through forex trading but the system Chris/Vahid teaches them doesn’t work properly, it doesn’t give signals. Chris/Vahid told them that making 20% per month with this system is a piece of cake and they trusted him even though he had never made such rate of return with this system. They begun to understand that trading is not waiting only, but making money first.

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  53. Rajj

    Members are getting less active?
    Probably you are right Tokra. I could see his desperation asking people with trading system different from him to keep posting so that people will continue to follow :)

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  54. tokra

    Mark,
    how do you want us to rate FxKeys on forexpeacearmy? FxKeys is not doing anything wrong at the moment. Just relax and wait to see what happens.

    Raj, if you’re the same person on FxKeys with the fib thread in the forum, keep up the good work. It’s the most educational thread in the forum :)

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  55. Mark

    Hi tokra,
    If FxKeys is not doing anything wrong rate it. I think that it is not too difficult to understand.

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  56. Mark

    May 0% or (-4%), June 0%

    FxKeys June performance: 0%,
    EUR/CAD long – still open

    “Making a 20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5% monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30% profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.)”. Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi

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  57. John

    Hi guys,

    Vahid has launched his risk free trading program (phase 1) below:
    http://www.fxkeys.com/risk-free-trading-program-phase-1/
    Basically the program will reward members with money that the website generated through google AdSense. The amount of money that member get is based on the point system he created (more points mean more money) and those money will be used to fund their Forex trading account, hence risk free. Each member need to apply and submit their own Google AdSense publisher ID and linked it to the website.

    Although he claimed that the money will be distributed to all his members and he won’t get any but I still has doubt about it. This Google AdSense thing is totally new to me but compared to one person who has a website and want to generate traffic to Vahid’s website utilizing all his members to generate traffic the difference could be massive if I imagined. Is there any limit that Google imposed on the website on how many AdSense id one can use on their website? Someone who is expert on this could you please help to enlighten?

    Also if you scroll down to the members comments on the linked I posted above, he deleted most of Ahamed Sha comment which make me suspicious that there are things that he doesn’t want his members to know about it.
    I just cut and paste below:

    —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
    Ahamed Sha July 10, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    Hi Chris,

    Your idea is noble…

    (1)

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    Chris Pottorff July 10, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    Ahamed,

    Thank you for your comment and sorry that I had to remove its main part because I didn’t want it to poison the members minds.

    I talked about the points you had in your comment with my programmer, SEO and marketer friends and they did not admit it. There are some people around me who have several years of internet programming and marketing experience. This program is developed by them.

    By the way, thank you for your concern.

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    Ahamed Sha July 10, 2015 at 6:16 pm

    Hi Chris,

    No issue…

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    Chris Pottorff July 10, 2015 at 6:31 pm

    Ahamed,

    Thank you again. We will think about it seriously.

    —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

    Any comment please?

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  58. Rajj

    Vahid is finally showing his real intention.

    Looking at how many websites/blogs that he runs, he is probably aiming to make passive income from online marketing/ads revenue, something that he is probably good at. Similarly to FXKeys website.
    The hardest thing to make a revenue is to driving traffic to it. Traffic is the lifeblood of your business because it generates income. That’s why he is doing all he can to attract people coming to FXKeys, things like posting trading article, mentoring, risk free program (by sharing some of his revenue to members so that members would recruit another members, etc).

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  59. xxHel

    YJ,

    I saw that when you posted all other websites of him :) And I decided not to answer because I did not want to be removed for now.

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  60. YJ

    I am just wanna share the true.

    Whether member or not, it is not that important for now.

    Forex needs practice.

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  61. Mark

    After hundreds members of FxKeys crowd had signed up for Google Adsense and had given to Chris all necessary data Chris wrote:
    “We changed our mind about working with adsense because many of our members couldn’t get their accounts approved by adsense. We will work with some other alternatives. We will let you know. Nothing has to be done by you for now.”

    Do you know what he is up to his risk free program? We will know soon…

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    1. Rajj

      Google AdSense program was abandoned since Google doesn’t allow people to link too many accounts to one website. Since the beginning when he asked his members to create individual account I have already sense something is not right.

      Google AdSense only allows 6 ads maximum (3 banners and 3 links) for one page and say he had 100 members successfully creating the account, how would he display their ads on the page based on his points system? Due to allowable limit ads by Google, he needs to rotate all of his 100 members account so that everyone will get a fair chance for their ads to get displayed and clicked and earn money but this way won’t be utilizing his point system much. Say he is utilizing his point system by displaying ads for his members with highest points longer than people with less points, still it doesn’t guarantee members with their ads displayed longer to earn more money. It is still hit and miss, depending on their luck.

      I don’t understand why he didn’t just create AdSense with his account (1 account) and distribute the money through his point systems to his members. It is easier and fairer.

      I was amazed how most of his members just open the account straight away and give all the details to him without further thought. Chris was also lying when he told his member that he never opened AdSense account. If you look at those Vahid’s websites posted here, you could see Google Ads were there :). Just be careful people and think smart.

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  62. bunty

    Hi friends

    I am a beginner in trading .I went through the site fxkeys and I like the articles but after reading this I can’t decide what to do. please suggest me what should I do.

    Please suggest me some site where I can learn trading thoroughly

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    1. YJ

      You can continue reading his posts but beware of his scam to request money from your pocket.

      I think he fails the fxkeys. It takes too long for progress. And also, his true face was exposed and easily google.

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  63. YJ

    Actually i did not mentioned he is the one who created those website i mentioned above. I was just saying i found interesting websites. Who knows, he removed me. So the intention behind of his action is clear enough to prove that he is vahid chaychi who was a scam in past of forexoma.

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    1. Maza

      Yes I guess we are all “vampier suckers” but only because we follow these two blogs we become caught between them but I ask how different are they?……follow your own path, dont trust anyone, learn as much as you can, dont make opinions, be true to your self the rest will come.

      most important be free do not let others control or influence your decisions and emotions when we can do this we can be consistantly profitable traders

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  64. Sohai

    Fxkeys is a scam! It seems like Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi is a vampire sucker of himself too. :)

    Chris Pottorff is Vahid Chaychi. Vahid Chaychi is a scam for forexoma in past.

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    1. John

      How come he didn’t get caught by Authorities for scamming people in the past? He still have lots of websites running under his name so to trace him down shouldn’t be that difficult.

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  65. Mark

    May 0% or (-4%),
    June 0%,
    July 0%

    FxKeys July performance: 0%,
    EUR/CAD long – still open

    “Making a 20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5% monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30% profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.)”. Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi

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    1. Marek

      Mark, for your poor results in trading you showed you should only blame yourself. My results are consistently in profit, usually over 10% up to 25% and it is based on fxkeys teaching because my strategy i use and learnt comes only from fxkeys. Its a lot of talking and speculation here and you should rather focus on devoloping your skills in trading than too much talk unless you enjoy it then good luck! People who are taking part in fxkeys forum, learn new things, then accusing Chris and call him a scammer should really consider leaving the Site. To me its hypocrisy! I have never been lured into anything, never lied to, always found it genuine and positive. I learnt more than anyone can offer and that is the only prove its real and worth it. Thanks.

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      1. John

        For getting caught logging into FXKeys as Vahid by some of his members (see this link: http://i57.tinypic.com/14vqtyc.jpg) and for hiding/censoring/removing anything from FXKeys website that mention Vahid’s name or website related to him has already make anyone suspicious enough that Chris is in fact Vahid the founder of Forexoma Brokerage scam. You are indeed very naïve Marek and those people that Vahid is trying to recruit now. Good luck with your trading, hopefully you could become a millionaire one day :)

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  66. Mark

    I have never written that you – Marek – can’t make 20% a month. How much money you make is not my business unless you public your setups. Chris/Vahid launches his setups pubicly so this is my business too. His setups don’t make 20% a month that’s a fact.

    I knew Vahid Chaychi, he was the founder of Forexoma Brokerage-forex scam. He has never denied that he didn’t scammed traders. My obligation is to warn traders that Chris is Vahid and that they may be scammed by him again.

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  67. Mark

    FxKeys performance:

    May 0% or (-4%),
    June 0%,
    July 0%,
    August 0%

    EUR/CAD long – still open

    “Making a 20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5% monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30% profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.)”. Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi

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  68. halpin

    hehehehe.. “20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake” what a piece of lethal bullshit .. anyone in their right mind cant make such ridiculuous claims.
    shame on him for misleading ppl!

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    1. JLTrader Post author

      Kudos Mark for keeping score on FxKeys performance. Hopefully, some of the more delusional people who fell for this Vahid guy hook, line and sinker are now finally waking up to reality.
      @halpin I like that ‘lethal bullshit’ expression LOL

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      1. Andrew

        I believe they have JLTrader I have been subscribed to the site for a while seems after the adsense BS now Vahid has lost some interest in persuing the sitenow he dosent post as many articles as before seems the site may have geen created for the sole pourpose of generating traffic for his profit some how I am no internet guru just a suggestion thanks for your blog by the way I hope Vahid does not give false hope to too many more new traders

        Cheers

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      2. halpin

        hey,
        i really dont know why people are treating him like god! i can bet my life on the fact that people’s hope of becoming a milionaire by making “only” 20% a month by following his trading plan is merely naive…
        as a money manager myself ( on a small level though ) , we all know how great a performance its considered if ur making low risk 40-50% a year.. and how much effort its required ..

        not that making calculation on a paper on how much weeks you are away from raking in millions by making “only 20 % a month “.lol

        regards,
        halpin

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  69. YJ

    Vahid/Chris wanna wait for everything to calm down. Like his education, patience is the key.

    So, this blog has to be keep going to remind everyone including newbies.

    His plan has failed…. In grave now.

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  70. Adam

    Well ladies and gentlemen,

    All your suspicions about him trying to sell something has come true.

    I was on his site and stumbled across a page that is not yet public, here is the link, go and have a look before Vahid takes it down:

    http://www.fxkeys.com/fxkeys-millionaires-club/

    Good luck.

    Adam*

    *(changed name so I won’t be banned from Fxkeys)

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    1. Medasculo

      “There is a $99 monthly fee to join the FxKeys Millionaires Club”. There you go! This guy is so desperate to take advantage of newbies. But, hey, if newbies still fall for that, they are not only naive, but downright stupid. If they don’t have common sense they will never make it on this business.

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  71. YJ

    Finally finally… Well done guys.

    Great Job! As i said, he fell in grave now. He won’t success.

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  72. SeniorMember

    I changed my name so I won’t get banned on FxKeys.
    Please Marek and other member if you read that, don’t be gullible and do some research first. This is a typical pyramid this guy is setting up.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme

    There is no value at the moment, nothing to sell, just future promises. The people on top of the pyramid earn the most – I’m confused because I thought this pyramid scheme would be illegal in many countries. I remember seeing a guy on LinkedIn years ago who promised similar things about his “travelling members”.

    So let’s face it. FxKeys has a lot of valueable information but this pyramid really stinks and makes me highly suspicious.

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  73. Linz

    My first thought was a pyramid scheme too. Jury’s still out for me though so I must be a hedge trader!
    Chris did say it was risk free and it’s not if there is a joining fee. However having said that, I’ve lost much more than that just trading. No drama. But I do not wish to be part of a pyramid scheme if that is true.

    By the way I’m not going to hide behind a pseudonym. If you feel you have to because you don’t want to be banned from the site then are you not the same as what you criticize? You must feel there is some value there or you are undecided but still snipe from the sidelines. Marek is identifiable and so am I. If I get banned for appearing on here then too bad. If you worry about the site being a scam, then leave.

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    1. Adam

      Linz, you’re shooting the messenger here. Whether you choose to hide behind another name or use your real name, isn’t the issue here as long as you report facts and not fiction, would you agree?

      I chose not to use my name because I use the Fxkeys for other purposes, I learnt valuable lessons from the site, and I intend to keep it that way.

      I merely reported what’s published on Fxkeys site to confirm what people in here (JLTrader) have been saying for months, that’s all.

      Had I known that Chris/Vahid won’t punish me (ban me) for merely reporting his sales pitch, I would gladly publish my name, but as we all know, no one really knows how he would react/behave, so the safest choice is to use different name.

      I won’t be joining his club as I’m against pyramid schemes, period. On top of that It will be anything but risk free ($99 monthly fee).

      Remember, focus on the message not the messenger.

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      1. Linz

        Sorry but I disagree.

        You’re not reporting fact but speculation and opinion. You may well be right but until he’s had a chance to explain to quell member’s fears you are jumping the gun. But at the same time, you want to benefit from what he offers for free so you remain anonymous.

        Quote:
        “I chose not to use my name because I use the Fxkeys for other purposes, I learnt valuable lessons from the site, and I intend to keep it that way.”

        “Use” being the operative word.
        I don’t like that. I would feel uncomfortable with that. You should front up.

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        1. Adam

          That’s ok Linz, I’m not here to convince you or defend my decisions. You draw your own conclusions, I’ll draw mine.

          I’m totally ok with staying anonymous, while you’re not, that’s why I love life, each person is unique and that makes living interesting :-)

          In the meantime, happy trading

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  74. Adam

    Hi all,

    Chris/Vahid is a generous guy when it come to educating people to be winners in the forex business, so I have absolutely nothing against him in that regard.

    What I find hard to believe is that he’s charging $99/month to be part of his club (yes, I know he said you’ll get most of it back IF you’re an active member) to generate money so we can use that to trade with, and at the same time he’s saying his main aim with Fxkeys is to help the guys who don’t have money to open a live account (hence risk ‘free’ program).

    I remember in his comments saying he wants to help traders who are good traders (demonstrated solid positive trading results in demo account over an extended period of time) but have no money to start trading live, because they’re so poor or for other reasons. And yet he wants them to pay him $99/month. That’s a fortune in many places in the world.

    If those guys have a spare $100/month, guess what? In a year they can open a live account with $1200 in it.

    I see a big flaw in his claimed ‘noble’ objective compared to his actions.

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  75. JLTrader Post author

    Hey guys
    Just noticed some incoming traffic from this link http://www.fxkeys.com/forums/topic/millionaire-club/page/2/ and went there to see what’s going on. I found this post, by Andrew M:

    I may get banned for posting this but here we go… there is a forum following Fxkeys I dont know who this guy called JLtrader is but he has a blog here

    http://www.jltrader.com/2014/09/09/the-fxkeys-com-to-ruining-your-account-1/

    although he has many claims against Chris and Fxkeys he does not like to share his real name or identity but claims to deface fraudulent forex web sites so new traders dont get caught by surprise, it seems strange to me that he claims to be a successful trader and offers a mentoring service for a fee but criticizes fxkeys for not showing proof of their success eg myfxbook account but he too will not show proof of his trading success

    I think I will give up on forex for now even though I have great passion for the currency market it is almost impossible to find good real advice and mentoring maybe this is not a market for retail traders… good luck my friends I wish you all success and happiness

    Dear Andrew M:
    Let me congratulate you on your decision to give up forex. You are TOO THICK for trading, and I’m not saying this as an insult, but as a statement of fact. I have an About page ever since I started this site, yet it seems you haven’t noticed it, otherwise you wouldn’t say I don’t give my real name or hide my identity. Did you ask to skype with me to convince yourself that’s really who I am in that picture and I refused ? No. As for proof of trading success, I think I’ve explained the situation clearly enough in the Mentoring page, but I’m not expecting someone like you to understand it.

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    1. Andrew m

      Thank you Jltrader for your insults you can go ahead and delete this post before too many people see it just like Chris did but I believe you are not a trader at all you are a blogger or marketer trying to make money off the internet if you were a real trader who makes a living trading why would you want to teach anyone or is it just because you a such a great person and want to help no wants to buy your mentoring no need to reply i wont read it I dont have time to waist on these bs forex forums anymore

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  76. Adam

    Chris has just confirmed (by not denying the content) that the “Millionaires” club article is intended to be published to the public in the future, but it wasn’t meant to be public for now.

    So in essence, everything in the article is true, and there is no jumping the guns here as some die hard fans would like us to believe. That’s how Chris sees the risk “free” program (once the article is made public).

    As I stated before, I like to bring facts, not fiction, so here is the link to Chris’ reply, which if you read it objectively, it was only a matter of time before releasing the article: http://www.fxkeys.com/forums/topic/millionaire-club/page/3/#post-54227

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    1. Linz

      Adam,

      I don’t visit FXKeys much because I have a busy life, so I read articles from time to time and comment very rarely compared to some. I came across JLTrader’s site and this thread before I joined FXKeys because I googled Chris Portoff’s name as a precaution like I usually do. That was a little after this thread had got underway so my eyes were already open, as many on FXKeys are but say nothing. Your obvious reference to me as a die hard fan of FXKeys is inaccurate. That is a backhander from you because I pulled you up on your hypocrisy. If you read my previous post properly I said indeed you may well be right. I simply prefer some objectivity before you rush to judgement in your determination to be right. I also prefer all the evidence to be in before a verdict is reached and a right of reply is given. He is aware that some are saying MLM scheme and he has answered it is not because MLM is illegal. Unlike you I have no idea yet.

      Essentially I have no problem with you expressing your democratic opinion at all and like I said you and others on here may well be right. My objection was around your obvious joy that you had finally uncovered a crook while at the same time remaining undercover so you can say whatever you like without penalty to your chances of obtaining benefit from the very man you campaign against.

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      1. Adam

        Hi Linz,

        Thank you for your reply.

        I learnt long time ago to not get into time wasting arguments.
        For this very reason, I only will say I presented you with what I believed are facts. It’s up to you what you’ll do with it.

        Happy trading though :-)

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  77. Mark

    FxKeys performance:

    May 0% or (-4%),
    June 0%,
    July 0%,
    August 0%,
    September 0%

    EUR/CAD long – still open

    “Making a 20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5% monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30% profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.)”. Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi

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    1. Linz

      Mark,

      Marek’s earlier reply of 10-25% in defense of FXKeys may provide some proof that the teachings there do work. On the site Marek’s comments lead me to believe he is an honest guy so I believe him. He is quite a knowledge himself. Not my own personal trading experience but that is because I don’t have enough time to seriously trade much and I think you have to be pretty time dedicated especially in the learning stages.

      I’m not aware of FXKeys ever recommending trades but rather analysis which is a guide only, so your percentage points don’t mean much unless this is your own trading based on your own interpretations.

      EURCAD long still open would have given by now a really solid return if you had a reasonable account/lot size to handle the retracements. It has been on the upside for 5 months now. Maybe that’s how you achieve 20%.

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  78. John

    Wowzer, so much thing has had happened while I was away.

    To be honest if you want to spend money for membership, it is better to spend yours on known people like Jarrat Davies or Kathy Lien. Well known people in Forex with real track records, identities, offices etc rather than fake Mr Pottorff.

    His initial plan would probably launched faster if this website doesn’t exists. Less and less analysis on his website as he is now concentrating on how to make money only. Thanks JLTrader for keeping this website alive and warning us. Although what you had warned us has more to do with unrealistic FXKeys trading plan but by coming to this website I did find out from other posters here that Chris is actually Vahid who has previously conned people. Hope all of his members will realize soon that when everything is too good to be true, then they should handle it with great care.

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  79. Linz

    Mark

    Yes FXKeys confirms a long CHFJPY setup by analysis, but I quote:
    “Do I take this long trade setup?
    I trade support/resistance breakouts also, but I am used to take much stronger setups usually on weekly and monthly time frames. So the answer is no :)”

    Not sure what your last reference means in this case, please explain.

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    1. Mark

      I don’t read Vahid’s-Chris’ analysis. When he marks stop los levels on a chart I recognize it as a trade setup.

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  80. Linz

    Then if you don’t read the analysis before you attempt to establish credible argument by posting set ups as recommendations, it is spurious and misleading. But don’t let facts get in the way of your own agenda!
    C’mon, some due diligence is in order here if you have a point to prove.

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    1. Mark

      If your English was not native I would think that you are Vahid Chaychi , so you must be his advocate, or rather devil’s advocate.

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      1. Adam

        What Linz mentioned is fair and to the point.

        Attacking other people instead of focusing on the issue at hand is just childish to say the least.
        Linz has put forward a very strong and valid argument in my opinion, and instead of giving a convincing counter-argument, you resorted to personal attack!

        Tell us why you would track trade set up when clearly Chris/Vahid said he won’t trade it? (Just because he puts stop loss is a lame argument)

        Another point, Chris/Vahid doesn’t tell us when he is out of a trade, so maybe he had closed his EURCAD trade a while ago and you’re still track it (maybe hoping it comes around to hit SL to ‘prove’ your point).

        I hope you don’t label me as devil’s advocate 😀

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        1. Mark

          To your first question I had answered before you put it:

          „I don’t read Vahid’s-Chris’ analysis. When he marks stop los levels on a chart I recognize it as a trade setup”.

          If you had looked at the chart you would have seen that this position… Look at the chart… You are right this was not a trade setup.

          To your next question Vahid/Chris answered seweral times:

          He opens two positions. One with R/R 1/5 and second without TP. When his first position reaches TP he moves SL of his second position to break even.

          He wrote about his money management strategy several times, but I see that you don’t like taking the facts into account. It is not my problem.

          We discuss here about reality not about someone’s fancy. The issue is this sentence:

          “Making a 20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5% monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30% profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.)”.

          and this:
          „Chris Pottorf doesn’t exist. Chris Pottorf is a nickname of Vahid Chaychi the founder of Forexoma Brokerage then forex scam. Fxkeys belongs to V.Chaychi”.

          Try deny the facts.

          I don’t label you as devil’s advocate, I think your IQ is below medium.

          If you have questions use your brain and try to be objective.

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          1. Adam

            Mark, I knew you would be creative in labelling me with something to shift the discussion to trivial matters, you certainly didn’t disappoint me 😀

            Let’s just go back to the EURCAD, don’t you think Chris/Vahid or anyone else who took that trade with riskier stop loss would have had 5xSL profit target hit in the 1st position and moved the SL to BE in 2nd positioin?
            Isn’t that a fact you’re trying to convince us that you only talk facts. Shouldn’t you change the EURCAD from ‘Open’ to ‘+%’? (besides that doesn’t means anything, as each trader risk % is different from each other).

            This is what I observed from your previous posts, it’s clear to me that you have an end goal already set (Chris=Vahid the scammer), now it’s about bending facts and omitting the obvious to reach that goal.

            Linz has nailed it when he said you already have an agenda and you’ll pursue it till the end, and if anything comes up that doesn’t support it, you’ll turn a blind eye or minimize its impact.

            Not everyone here is an amateur traders or illogic person, some here have been around the block several times, so try to be fair if you really only care about facts.

            As for describing me that I have a lower than average IQ, I respect your judgement about me even though you don’t know me and never met me , and that says a lot about you.

            Happy trading though :-)

  81. Linz

    Mark, I don’t follow your logic at all. You first posted: “FXKeys trade set-up: CHFJPY long.” Then you recognize FXKeys Stop loss level on a chart as a set up. But now you say, if you look at the chart it is not a set up although it has 3 Stop Loss levels. To me a mass of contradictions. So why did you post it originally as was Adam’s question and my own?
    You speak of facts. Because you post someone’s opinion that Chaychi is Pottorff does not make it a fact. That is not proven despite a fair amount of coincidence.
    You ask Adam to be objective but I don’t see much objectivity or clarity from you at all. You then call into question Adam’s intelligence which is more abuse because clearly his is well above medium. You lash out when you are found wanting.

    BTW I am not Chaychi, Pottorff or even his or the devil’s advocate. I am an advocate of a fair hearing and of valid arguments that hold some integrity. Attacking members personally on here does not do your cause much good at all.

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    1. Adam

      Linz, there is no need to defend yourself when others accuse you when you speak facts, there will always be people accusing you of laughable stuff.

      Just smile and say ‘ahmm…intersting!’ and leave it at that. People who attack others love to see a reaction of the same magnitude or bigger for them to feel satisfied and happy. But when you absorb their attacks and don’t react, you cut off the supply of oxygen that feeds the raging fire inside them, and they’re lost as to whether to up their attacks a notch or withdraw altogether, because they rarely face people with high EQ, there are not many around.

      People of substance will always discuss topics at hand and never blindly throw accusations about someone else’s personality, they stick to the debate.

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  82. Mark

    I asked you Adam: „If you have questions use your brain and try to be objective”

    EUR/CAD still open, with riskier SL too! When the second position reaches SL or TP I will post it!

    Don,t you think you are not serious? Or maybe you are one of Vahid’s Forexoma Brokerage friends who scammed hundreds of traders and you do him and yourself a favour to scam people again?

    Linz,
    When I posted CHF/JPY setup it was profitable. That was my objectivity. If you had looked at the chart you would have seen everything.

    We are here to warn traders against FxKeys. I believe we have done good work and a lot of people know who is behind FxKeys.com and what plans those people have. A risk free program came to naught then was changed into the Ponzi Scheme what is a crime. It is not the end, and we will supervise and monitor FxKeys further and alert traders – here on the JL Trader’s website.

    “Pyramid schemes follow a predictable formula. Usually, one person, known as the “recruiter,” will create a fraudulent business which requires others to pay a fee to join. The people he recruits to the business then recruit others to join as well, and pocket the fees. This cycle of recruitment is supposed to continue indefinitely, so that everyone who joins the “business” will continue to receive the recruitment fees of the newest recruits. The problem with successful pyramids is that, eventually, there will be no one left to join the pyramid, and those already in the scheme will lose their investment.
    the Federal Trade Commission has occasionally prosecuted pyramid schemes as deceptive trade practices, or fraud”.

    I do know that we here spoiled FxKeys plans.

    Best regards,

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    1. Adam

      Hahaha….maybe I’m Vahid/Chris himself, that should make you feel even better :-)

      Be careful, I might sneak in to your trading account and take all the cents in it ( assuming you trade real account).

      All the best buddy, you made my day today, and for that I thank you 😀

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  83. Linz

    Haha! :-) Mark you carry on posting FXKeys setups as proof that Pottorff is a bad trader even if he states he won’t take the set ups and thank you for explaining to me all about ponzi/pyramid schemes too, but I think it’s well covered.

    Thank you for your lesson on objectivity. But please try to discern the difference between fact and conjecture, and proof and opinion. You “know” and assume so much but it may be better to use words such as “maybe” or “perhaps” which would better present your arguments in a more believable form. Otherwise it betrays your enthusiasm to be right and superior before proof is established. That’s why I mentioned due diligence, with less emotion, which is a requirement if you want to slander someone.

    You have accused both me and Adam as advocates and scammers and therefore in cahoots because we found your own analysis lazy, and yet if you look further back me and Adam crossed swords too but albeit in a dignified way without abusing each other. In your self confessed objectivity you should have seen that.

    Not a good look for Vahid and Pottorff to be seen arguing between themselves! :-) :-)

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  84. Mark

    FxKeys performance:

    May 0% or (-4%),
    June 0%,
    July 0%,
    August 0%,
    September 0%,
    October 0%

    EUR/CAD long – still open

    “Making a 20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5% monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30% profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.)”. Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi

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  85. Mark

    FxKeys performance:

    May 0% or (-4%),
    June 0%,
    July 0%,
    August 0%,
    September 0%,
    October 0%,
    November 0%

    EUR/CAD long – still open

    “Making a 20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5% monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30% profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.)”. Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi

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    1. Linz

      FXKeys trading signals 0%
      RXKeys trading recommendations 0%
      FXKeys trade following service 0%
      FXKeys subscription fees 0%
      FXKeys trading strategies, up to you
      FXKeys trade exits, up to you
      FXKeys risk/ reward ratios, up to you
      FXKeys member’s real profitability data uncollected
      FXKeys methodologies and technical data are free and not prescribed
      All information is at trader’s risk as defined by law so up to you to decide if useful or not

      Therefore a 0% win rate statistic is a theoretical pissing in the wind 100%

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      1. Mark

        FXKeys trading signals – as much as one can see in FxKeys performance analysis.

        RXKeys trading recommendations – FxKeys trade setups. It’s up to FxKeys followers if they want to follow Chris/Vahids trade setups or not.

        FXKeys trade following service –1) The First Risk Free Program – came to nothing. 2) The FxKeys Millionaire Club (the Second Risk Free Program) – came to nothing.

        FXKeys subscription fees – The FxKeys Millionaire Club – 100$ monthly pay.

        FXKeys trading strategies – Bollinger Bands Breakout.

        FXKeys trade exits – 1st. position 1:5, second position bigger.

        FXKeys risk/ reward ratios – 1st. position 1;5, second bigger.

        FXKeys member’s real profitability data – the same as in FxKeys performance analysis.

        FXKeys methodologies and technical data – It’s up to FxKeys followers if they want to follow Chris/Vahids trade setups.

        All information is at trader’s risk as defined by law so up to you to decide if useful or not

        Therefore a 0% win rate statistic is the FXKeys member’s real profitability data.

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  86. Linz

    Mark, if that’s your real name, I am grateful to FXKeys for the trading info provided free and you also are probably still a member albeit undercover so you will not get excluded from any benefits you might receive from whom you criticize so readily.

    I really don’t know what the intentions of FXKeys were or are but you seem to know everything. The risk free program of obtaining revenue from advertisers’ on that site and members being able to tap into that on a points system for real trading was an interesting new idea on face value, but apparently met technical difficulties. You can presume other reasons but that’s just a guessing game so I refuse to get excited about stuff that may or may not be real. That includes the so called Millionaire’s club. My only hesitation was paying for something which contradicted the ‘risk free’ philosophy stated from the beginning. I think many members felt that but it was never officially released (because of criticism or why I know not but you will) and it was an idea that has not yet got off the ground therefore no harm done.

    So I have to judge only on what actually exists at this point, and that is there is no trade copying service or fees to pay therefore the owner of the site is answerable to no one and is entitled to do or say whatever he likes including analysis which members can follow or not. And you can keep posting monthly % win/lose rates based on imaginary entries if you have the time. I suspect you lost money and blame FXKeys for that, hence the bitterness.

    Meanwhile I would rather put energy into mastering trading. You can carry on with being a master sleuth if you want, but you are wasting your time in my view trying to prove a point until you have some real evidence of ill intent and injured parties there are much more important concerns in this world.

    I wish you trading success

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  87. Mark

    FxKeys performance:

    May 0% or (-4%),
    June 0%,
    July 0%,
    August 0%,
    September 0%,
    October 0%,
    November 0%,
    December 0%

    EUR/CAD long – still open

    “Making a 20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5% monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30% profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.)”. Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi

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    1. Kenny

      Mark,

      Can you explain how you derived those results? If you look at “Chris'” articles, he did open some trades according to his analysis. Surely there are some profits from one of those set ups and also mentioned by him?

      Like many, I want to understand and get balanced views of Fxkeys. Cheers.

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      1. Sohai

        Hi Kenny,

        No matter how, Chris is a liar. But what is good is he is willing to share his knowledge to us and thus it was benefited. His contribution (hook) had lost its magic to pull us in to his fraud.

        Regards

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        1. Noeng

          Hi all,,
          I am also a FXkeys follower, so far I feel an incredible sensation of FOREX trading, Chris and Colleagues tutor very useful , also very precise analysis .
          If you want to know my transaction history based on the FXkeys analysis , please email to ” noengdema@gmail.com
          I will be send my CSV File :
          – Historical analysis of FXkeys by Chris Pottorrf -period Feb’13 to Jul’15)
          – History of my demo trading -period Apr’13 to Oct’14
          – History of my real account -period Jan’15 till now
          If you want , i can send you my micro lot account number and password
          — From $10 to $82 , in six month —

          In my experience, the first year with demo Account is not very good, but in 2014 there was a fairly rapid development, so in 2015 I decided to open a real account with an initial deposit of US$ 1000.
          Its growth is very impressive, now my account is already a US$ 37 852.

          There is wrong with that ????
          Is there an advantage for FXkeys or Chris Pottorrff and Colleagues ??

          Why are you so giddy about who’s Chris ///??
          Why do you have to insult us in FXkeys ///??
          Why you so naive about who’s Chris and how he ///??
          This Earth is not your mom’s ,, anyone can Comment and Analysis ,,

          Bravo FXkeys
          Happy Trading

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      2. Mark

        FxKeys’, Chris’, Vahid’s last trade setup was this:
        http://www.fxkeys.com/nzdjpy-weekly-chart-retesting-of-the-broken-support-line/

        “EUR/CAD has also formed a long trade setup by 2015.06.29 candlestick on the daily chart. This setup is so similar to EUR/AUD, but it is stronger. The 2015.06.29 candlestick has closed above middle band while the market is bullish. The candlestick strength and Bollinger Lower Band breakout it has formed, plus the market direction on the daily chart, have formed a 100 score long trade setup”.

        The first target reached. The second still open and it is looking very good so far.

        Since that day Chris/Vahid has not published any trade setup because the system he uses has not given any 100% trade setup except (if I remember) one but he missed it.

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  88. Mark

    FxKeys performance:

    May 0% or (-4%),
    June 0%,
    July 0%,
    August 0%,
    September 0%,
    October 0%,
    November 0%,
    December 0%.

    2016
    January 0%

    EUR/CAD long – still open

    “Making a 20% monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5% monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30% profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.)”. Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi

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      1. Sohai

        Actually can not said it was 100% BS. There are something useful and kind of encouragement was giving in the articles.

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  89. Sohai

    Hi Guys, I think we should gather all the fxkeys members somewhere else. Hope you guys see this message.

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  90. Sebastian

    I’m very sad that FxKeys went down. I tried to suggest to establish an alternativ a few weeks/months ago but unfortunately people hoped that the website owner would come back. I do not know what happened – maybe the owner died and contracts were quit – because fxkeys.com the domain cannot be resolved anymore – so the web hosting provider deleted everything as it seems. It does not matter what happened, there were some great people like Raj who did an excellent education in the forums. Just write here if you find this – let’s see how many members really find that page here in order to evaluate if it’s worth it to put up a forum alternative.
    Sebastian

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    1. sohai

      i think he didn’t die because he had replied someone message in his fxkey facebook page.

      Regards.

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  91. Sebastian

    Hi Sohai,

    I entered the facebook group I found on that blog, that would be a good way to get in touch again, but I’m not sure how many fxkeys member will find these comments here, because some may be insulted and not continue reading when seeing the article.

    Could you please link the facebook page you meant where he replied someone’s message?

    That someone might have passed away was an idea, because the website was unfortunately a one-man show so if something happened to that person, after several months contracts would get quit including the web hosting stuff.

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  92. Sebastian

    Thanks, It doesn’t seem anybody reads the stuff in here.
    The fxkeys.com DNS name cannot be resolved anymore, this does not usually happen by a technical error – so somebody put the whole stuff offline on purpose.

    Any ideas for other forex communities to share trading ideas? I don’t want to pay for yet another course (e.g. learnToTradeTheMarkets.com etc.) they all have communities but you have to buy the course which is useless unless you’re a total beginner.

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  93. Sebastian

    Keith nice to see you, if you like to publish your e-mail address I’ll write them all down – let’s give it one week or so to see if more people find their way here.

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  94. Graham

    Hello Sbastian

    Very sad to hear of the close down of FXkeys site. It seems to have been on the cards for some months. Just when I joined the site. I didn’t get any feedback from the owner(s) of the site on my couple of enquiries. I got plenty of useful, and well-intended feedback from the sincere members.
    As you know, I have found the information on the site to be very useful. I had intended this week to review much of it, as I think going over it a few times helps to cement the ideas in your mind. Initially, I found the Bollinger band break-out strategy to be extremely successful. Of late, I have struggled to stay at break-even over a period of around 2 weeks. This, I believe, has been due to the fact that I have been “bending the rules” in order to take more trades. This is also, in itself, a valuable learning exercise. “Discipline” is key!

    I am all for trying to gather the former Fxkeys guys together into another forum of some kind. So I am happy to hear about this connection here. Let’s hope we can manage to salvage the “good things” from this mess.

    I would like to add that these insulting comments posted by several critics and supporters to only contribute to the bad taste that the mention of Forex Trading leaves in many people’s mouths. I would be inclined to put some credibility to people who put forward logical arguments without resorting to insults and name-calling. All that stuff is very off-putting, and of extremely limited value. I hope we can keep future communications of this kind on a professional footing, and, more importantly, with a sincere intent to assist all members of the trading community, especially the newbies.

    Best wishes

    Graham

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  95. basharat javed

    Hi, sabastion
    genesis is right .we should get together on some other forum.

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  96. Mark

    FxKeys website has been removed from the internet so FxKeys performance analysis won’t be continued, it is going without saying.

    Hi Vahid,
    I hope you will come back one day as Vahid Chaychi, the best trader I have ever met. It’s over to you.
    Best regards

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  97. Tom

    It is with sorrow that I find fxkeys has gone off the air.
    After downloading a few articles for study purposes, the process became addictive.
    After Anglicising Chris’ English, reformatting much of the prose, highlighting salient points and adding comments of my own in a blue text colour, I formed quite an extensive library of his ideas.
    The spread of so many different topics led to my having numerous files on different aspects.
    I am now ruing the fact that I didn’t download more articles on salient ideas.
    The comments under articles provided numerous gems, which would be cut/pasted to the relevant file, while irrelevant “Thanks” etc would be deleted.
    Despite the negative comments of some critics and name-callers, whom I suspect have not been successful in their own FX endevours, nobody has had anything intelligent to say about perceived errors in the system proposed on the fxkeys website. “Methink he doth protest too much!!!”
    What scammer would dedicate so many hours to writing well-researched, detailed and time-relevant articles, without ever asking for any recompense than the appreciation of those whom he was helping – and he has helped so many people, by inspiring them to get off the ‘victim’ list and get the self confidence to ‘have a go!!!’
    Fxkeys will be sorely missed by so many, as is obvious from comments on this site – Thanks must go to JL for allowing us to use this site to vent our sorrow over the loss of our lifeline. I was directed here, when looking for a reason for the absence of the fxkeys website.
    One of you tech-savvy youngsters must set up a site dedicated to promoting the simple trading system and providing a forum site for mutual self-help, where old fxkeys articles can be posted once again from our individual archives. I’m sure I’m not the only one who studied and annotated the articles. Since the origin would be credited and since it is for ‘educational and review purposes’, it would probably be ethical & legal. I’m sure Chris would have no objections. In fact, he would probably be flattered to know that he is missed.
    Personally, I cannot understand how such a wealth of educational material has been allowed to disappear.
    What has happened to Kamel, Salmaan, Peter Wagner, Michael etc???

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    1. Linz

      You would have to check out copyright issues on articles before you publish anything, a lot of his writings were not all his apparently, like Peter Wagner’s compilation. Peter was an independent contributor while I believe Kamel was a “trading buddy”. Don’t know if he was part of a team or an individual but there certainly was a lot of sincere people on the site and Chris put in a lot of time and always was very polite to me and always replied to my queries. Like a family which has it’s emotional connections and therefore it’s vulnerabilities. Because Chris never had an identity but rather an avatar was a problem for me because he could have solved that although a photo, still is not guarantee of real ID., video would be simpler. Also the site had no address, but like you do in a court of law people are always innocent until proven guilty and he may have had reasons unknown to me so that’s the position I took. And I didn’t like damning him and using him at the same time. The analysis and articles were always interesting and an easy read. Most people would have downloaded the 5 Easy Steps, so perhaps that’s all you need. The FB page which I did not know about says the site will be back, so time will tell but other than that there was no communication or announcements of any kind on his site, not even a goodbye which was disconcerting if it now is final. Thanks to JL also for providing the website for discussion and never deleting any posts and a few did not like JL too! Very important to have checks and balances. Cheers to all.

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  98. Chip Rivers

    I am guessing that Chris is in Jail. It’s a just a guess. I used to work for a gut that was perhaps like Chris. He thought he was brilliant, when in actual fact he just used to rip people off. He eventually ripped off the wrong people. They apparently cut off his head and he was found headless in a dumpster. True story!
    Either way if he goes around ripping people off, then he is going to make people angry. They will find him him and get the law onto him or administer their own version of it on him. Either way ripping people off is a very dumb idea and why most people don’t do it. You might get temporary gratification but the pain you get down the track will be alot worse and last a whole lot longer.
    Sad. I tested one of his systems and it was profitable

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    1. Linz

      You have links? If not then that’s just presumption and a sensational story. There are no facts of and no rip off or injured parties that I know of. Just a mystery and am happy to leave it there.

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  99. Sohai

    Now the fxkeys changed name to luckscout… Weird.

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  100. Henry Grayson

    Lucky they included the second “c” in “luckscout” :)

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  101. Mark

    luckscout.com (fxkeys.com)
    (…)We are a team of forex and stock traders who have been working with each other for years. We have regular meetings and are in touch through the Internet to share our knowledge, experience, and also the trade setups we locate. LuckScout was created by me, Chris Pottorff(…)

    forexoma.com
    (…)Forexoma.com was originally established by Vahid … Through professional collaboration he was joined by some of his trading buddies and together they helped him achieve this goal. Like many individual traders, all of them wanted to have their own brokerage service for their own trades, and at the same time, a reliable brokerage service for everybody (…)

    “WARNING: Forexoma Runs Away With Customer Funds

    Friday, August 23, 2013 10:28 am

    Forexoma, an online forex training and trading company seems to have disappeared into oblivion, along with exorbitant amounts of Customer Funds.

    At this very moment, efforts are being made to establish a contact with the ownership of Forexoma, however from the looks of it, chances are high that customers may never see a dime of their hard earned money – but then they say – Never Say Never. We at National Forex surely hope this to be true.

    National Forex News Desk team tried to load the Forexoma.com website, but not to our surprise, we found that the entire content of the website has been removed with little chance of customers accessing their online information”

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  102. Christopher

    No you’ve got it all wrong. Chris Porttoff is actually Bill Gates. And because I said so you have to believe me that it’s true. Bill Gates owns Forexoma. I can’t actually show you and legal document from a governing body proving that but I swear it’s true. Just look at all these articles that Chris Porttorff wrote on Fxkeys, they are exactly the same as these other articles that Bill Gates name is on. So you see it must be true. And beware of Luckscout because for the last couple of years they have been peddling money from new traders and selling courses, training, signals and even recommending brokers where they get referral fees from. It’s true, oh hang on, oops I got that one wrong. None of the above have actually happened but let’s keep accusing them and talking about them as if they do do that :)

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  103. Christopher

    http://www.luckscout.com/forums/topic/perseverance-and/page/27/#post-70043

    This guy has a couple of threads and has posted several myfcbook accounts showing a 1-2% profit everyday for a couple of months. He’s trying to discredit lucks out in his threads in hope people there will let him trade there money.

    Firstly, if he can consistently make 1-2% a day trading the 1 min chart then he doesn’t need anyone’s money because he will be a billionaire shortly 😀

    Secondly, he’s a scammer and is trying to manipulate newbies on luckscout and simply there is a lot that he claims that just doesn’t add up, let alone the fact that myfcbook can’t be trusted anyway, that’s a whole other scam on its own, particularly with his broker oanda.

    He claims he trades like floor traders (fx)that work for banks. Well there are no fx floor traders mark, because there is no floor in forex. Also he goes on about 1500 floor traders that citibank(might of said another bank), well once again, no floor traders. They might have 1500 people taking currency orders, because they are a bank but that’s different from trading for profit.

    Anyway I thought I’d better bring this up somewhere so all the luckscout people reading this, have some common sense, don’t be fooled by the prospect of riches

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  104. mofviop

    Hello could someone explain for me why fx keys is a scam? the article doesnt make any sense to me.

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    1. JLTrader Post author

      It’s a scam because the guy(s) behind it use a fake name and pretend to be what they are not. Moreover Chris aka Vahid blatantly BS his readers (see the 2 articles I wrote). He also has a history of scamming (in the truest sense of the word) people, google forexoma broker

      That’s anybody’s guess. Once you gather a large enough following of gullible people, there are many ways to fleece them.

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  105. mofviop

    Thank you for answering that quick.
    Maybe forexoma was a scam as the reviews says but still, what do you think he is up to?
    He is giving knowledge for free. What could possibly go wrong? Have you noticed any flaw in the trading system he uses?

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    1. JLTrader Post author

      No, he writes some text on a website for free, that’s what he does. What can possibly go wrong when you learn something from a fraudulent, zero credibility source? You tell me.

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      1. Christopher

        I don’t agree that he is fraudulent. He hasn’t yet ripped off anyone as far as I know. I’m not saying he is honest either, I’m just saying it’s still speculation at the moment.

        Having said all of that, to answer your question movfiop,

        The harm comes from new traders getting unrealistic expectations. Besides the forum where it’s the blind leading the blind, the major issue with the site and some of those free articles is that there is no information on the success rates of real traders, both professional and retail. This is what gives the reader an unrealistic expectation of trading. One of the articles in mind mentions one of his students who turned $5000 into $45000 in 40-50 days in a demo account. Whether or not this statement provided in the article is true or not is irrelevant. The real issue is that’s not real trading and those kinds of results don’t happen to most, if not all professional traders. The whole idea of been 70% accurate (which is also mentioned) just adds to the misconception. If read about any professional trader, both past and present, they almost always fit in the 40-60% range. And on a side note, you can have a low success rate and still make lots more than someone who has a much higher rate of success. Most people on that site think they can make a million in a year or less from 1-5000. Although possible history has proven time and time again that it never really happens. My own trading strat yields about 40% success rate and I can go as low as 25% before I end up in the red (statistically, not talking about draw downs) and yet I’m still doing quite alright, making money slowly but surly.

        Anyways hope this helps

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  106. Christopher

    Well it’s pretty much official now. Luckscout has become what was predicted, and I had hoped so much it wouldn’t.

    http://www.luckscout.com/luckscout-millionaires-club/

    This program is meant to be getting launched and explained shortly. I don’t know what it’s about but there are some obvious red flags like $99 per month, join and become a millionaire :) etc etc.

    Such a shame, I learnt a lot from the early days of that site.

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    1. Medasculo

      Yet there are still suckers that believe in Chris/Vashid. I guess that if one sooo naive and stupid as to not see the obvious, it’s better to lose your money on the scam and learn from that. Some people need to learn the hard way.

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  107. Christopher

    http://www.luckscout.com/time-to-take-big-steps-are-you-ready/

    Just an update. Lot of people are blindly signing up and those who are asking the right questions are getting the ring a round with answers.

    No track record, no indication as to what you will actually get for the money you spend, a lot of talk about a program but that means nothing. Even the other scammers out there give more detail as to what you’re purchasing.

    ‘ Soros is worth 24 billion, does that mean he should do everything for free and not be paid for his services?’… Well no Chris he should be paid for his services but he also has a track record and you don’t!

    Are the lies! So many honest people getting shafted, such a shame.

    Oh yeah one more thing. Apparently the fees are to pay all the support staff/ mentors and tech for the program and to promote the program. Now according to google and Chris,luck scout has around 20000 followers, so if 1000 of them join the program at $99 per month, that’s $100k a month or 1.2 million a year revenue. That’s a lot of support staff lol

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  108. Alper

    Hi jl trader , I think , you have to open a new topic on google like” fxkeys ruining your trade account ” luck scout ruining your trading account.

    Because when anybody search that fraud website on the net , he should see similar connection in search results ” luckscout a fraud website ” like fxkeys And find an opportunity to read realities about luckscout

    So I think main reason to change website name from fxkeys to luckscout is make a barrier for new members to see warnings about that fraud website ….

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  109. Mark

    “Who Is Behind LuckScout Millionaires Club?
    As I have explained here, we are a big team of successful traders, investors, businesspersons and entrepreneurs who many of them love to share their experiences with people who are interested”.

    Hey The LuckScout People! Are you sure? Are you a big team of successful traders…? Aren’t you and your boss Vahid Chaychi money suckers and forex scams? What about Forexoma? Tell us the truth? Are you a real men or cowards?

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