ForexLive Just Started Selling Trading Courses

By | July 17, 2015

Yeah, I just found out after watching some 30 minutes of an hour or so long *free* webinar called  ‘See the market through the eyes of a successful trader‘. I guess what attracted my attention was, beside the catchy title, the fact that they went out of their way to accommodate people on various timezones by giving the presentation twice, at different hours. I was sure there was something for sale, if we also take into consideration accompanying  statements like ‘space is limited’ or ‘is filling very fast’, which is standard sales lingo. It could be pointed out that the ‘scarcity’ problem can easily be solved by uploading the recording on YouTube and creating a dedicated page for answering any questions from listeners.

It turns out that my educated guess was correct. The *free* webinar was just a sales pitch for the $1197 ACT course which is named after Greg Michalowski’s book Attacking Currency Trends, launched in 2011. Please notice there’s that ‘scarcity’ sales tactic again: only 25 students per course. If that’s really so, I have no idea. There was no way of telling how many attendees were at tonight’s webinar, and I suppose they’ll use the same software.

Michalowski boasts that ACT is one of the highest ranked forex books on Amazon (47 five stars out of 53 reviews), but on a closer look, just half of those 47 (24 to be precise) are from people that have reviewed at least one other product. This casts serious doubt on the authenticity of the remaining 23. Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt, in the words of Shania Twain, that don’t impress me much. Traders are judged based on risk adjusted performance, not Amazon reviews.

As to the content of the *free* webinar, it was mostly common sense advice, ie treat trading like a business. What I didn’t like were some chart examples, where the highs and lows on GBP/USD were marked   on 1hr time frame and presented, with the benefit of hindsight, as good entry or exit points. A quote from Reminiscences of a Stock Operator sprang into my mind:

Disregarding the big swing and trying to jump in and out was fatal to me. Nobody can catch all the fluctuations. – Jesse Livermore

That’s perfectly true and every trader who’s been around the block long enough knows it from his experience. And here lies the beef I have with this project of ForexLive: if it really was that easy to catch all or most moves on 1hr time-frame with an 100 MA, Fibo levels and trend lines, Greg and the rest of the team would be compounding wealth at such a fast pace that they’d soon leave George Soros in the dust. The book on which this course is based was published 4 years ago. Why aren’t we shown any trading track-record from this period ?

I guess what bugged me hard enough to write this piece is what I perceive to be a sleight of hand on their part. ForexLive has built its traffic on up to the minute news, succinct analyses and market gossip. Now they use the reputation and exposure gained  in that area over the years to charge people $1197 for a trading course, without showing any proof that the methods taught have worked in real life. Well, in my book, that just ain’t right.

Later edit: seems like these guys can’t take any criticism at all. They removed my comments from the webinar thread. Anyone can judge for him/herself if there’s anything that can be deemed insulting in there.

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6 thoughts on “ForexLive Just Started Selling Trading Courses

  1. Linz

    Well JL, fairly blunt and highly skeptical so you can’t expect for them to leave your comments up when they’re trying to sell something! Might put a lot of punters off!? Their website I guess so they can and they did. But your point about a verified track record was very relevant and they should have addressed that. Your style is fairly combative so they gave you the finger instead and removed your comments and the follow up praise was too late!
    I enjoy your investigations tho, it’s a jungle out there :-))

    1. JLTrader Post author

      Removing comments just confirms they know that they are on shaky grounds. It’s like admitting that I’m right. On a different note, of course I’m highly skeptical when Greg gets people excited with how they could’ve picked tops and bottoms and charges $1197 to reveal the ‘method’. It’s just deceitful. Oh, and I remembered now, the way he kept repeating that he eliminates fear by using stop losses and targets. That’s misleading. There’s always the fear (although much less intense) of a long streak of SLs. Or of lackluster results in the future – there are no guarantees in trading.

  2. Johnny

    just a bunch of demo traders and experts in what has already happened. Cable falls 200 pips- they are johnny on the spot with charts and explanations. Euro rises 100 pips, ditto. thanks a lot for nothing,my broker only lets me trade in the now, not the past.
    Must be outta your mind to pay these guys $1200 for a course.

  3. Lee

    Next week Greg and the rest of the smooth talking team from forexlive are offering the ”Opportunity to Learn how to think and act like a Professional Trader” to 30 traders only. LOL

    Granted, compared to other providers of forex education at $5,000 or $10,000 ACT 4 comes cheap at just $2,000. But these guys seem just as shady as the rest; Jltrader raised some important points last year. Instead of addressing them, forexlive just blocked his comments and did nothing about it. Doesn’t inspire confidence at all!

  4. Ana

    They’ve been hitting my inbox pretty hard lately advertising the ACT course. I had to unsubscribe, couldn’t take it anymore

  5. CreditPhil

    They are a good bunch of guys writing news stories and analysis. The point about track record is not totally fair, as they do not try to sell anyone their investment product. I am no interested in trading courses, so can’t comment. But Basic courses are still valuable for beginners. It is up to them to decide what to do next. Nobody will teach them that, unless they work for a trading shop. I think they are somehow struggling to define their growth strategy. They have recently used the “popular” themes of Brexit and Trump to accumulate readers that are enjoying ranting online. Not sure how they will monetise that going forward. in my opinion, that is a dead end.


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